Women, Mensuration, Sabarimala and other issues......

*Summarized Points *

Clarification for the Argument/Discussion (which has been provided at the end)

•       Mensturation is no way related to sabarimala issue…. It is twisted argument… Why I presented this point here… It is for a reason… Generally people abstain from visiting temple on periods because Olden days there was no proper sanitary napkins, Hygiene practices. It doesn’t happen on its own… this was dictated by the society (later codified as RELIGION). They claim it a ‘Theetu’ and ‘Negative Energy’ because it’s a failed attempt of fertilization. Note: Regarding Sabarimala Argument, we can just abandon this… it would be hurdle here… Sabarimala issue is about different belief.

•       Indra,Varuna.. so and so god or mythological stories were made to make people follow certain things/practice habits…. If my grandma, gives me food saying “Anjukannan will come” It is a lie… It is a myth…. No Anjukannan exist in the real world…. Should I stop having food… Her intention was to make me eat, as a toddler i don’t take food on my own. Similarly, the society deviced certain mechanism for this purpose. During Menstruation, it is more involuntary bleeding than any other excretion from body. Imagine if the bleeding spill everywhere, even people faint of seeing blood… Involuntary bleeding make her less confident… Many explanations interpretations, lots and lot there over internet like smell of blood make people vulnerable to wild animal attack….. etc… MYTHOLOGICAL stories has no scientific basis but the intentions has Scientific reasons.

•        Then about Psychological Behaviour of women during menstruation… same type of argument which comes first… Egg or Chicken? I don’t live in the olden days, I am talking about the present day women….  Am talking about those playing dominant role in the institution, those with economic independence, who have crossed certain social barriers…. Those with strong conviction… They show abnormal Behaviour…. Pre & Post Menstrual Syndrome… This is part and parcel of the biological or natural process which creates a physical pain… They show anger for simple reason which in normal times they handle with charm… Actually I should not reveal these personal stuff for the sake of Argument… I have experienced it with many… (Normally girls won’t reveal outside when they are in period…)

•      Women empowerment – am not talking against it. Across the global it has been encouraged by many, not for the real purpose. Media, Cinema, TV serials sow the seed of fear, insecurity, etc with the Women community… Drive them for Economic Independence… Want them to revolt against men…. Ultimately the economic independence achieved increase in consumption… Very few shattered the social hurdles to fly high…. I attempted to give an alternative perspective. Because people often driven blindly, in the name of “something” and pushed into some other garbage… Time being this topic can be skipped…. I will present my view point in some other write-up….

•       Argument of “Even a diety would loss virginity” started by non-believers…. Of course it need to be addressed…. This is a wrongful, twisted argument to emotionally provoke people. No religious text or dictum or Priest said Ayyappa would loss virginity if any girl in his vicinity. If the Rationalist argue this, don’t they know it is a statue. Point is about belief system. One took vow of eternal celibacy (Ayyappa diety – Nastika Bhramacharya) and lakhs of people with strong aesthetic practice of celibacy of 48 days (Mandala Viratham) This would have created a vibration in the temple premises that is believed to be powerful against women. This is a religious belief. It is the beliefs which make the people to experience celibacy at least 48 days a year. It would reduce consumption of alcohol, cigarettes, condom sales, non-vegetarian foods and other non-essential luxuries at least for the period of 50 – 60 days…. Of course Economic loss for the system.

•        Social Reforms and Women Entry, are two different context… The difference of Discrimination and Exclusion is missing in your 3^rd point. Pinaraya attempted the same way, confusing people between the two different arguments/ issues. All Ayyappa temple permit women except sabarimala (seems 3 more popular Ayyappa temple in kerala… I know only Ayyappa temple one in Anna Nagar Tower Park). This is about EXCLUSION… Area Exclusive for Men or Exclusive for Women. For better illustration, there is a place in Chennai Thirunir Malai….. A Buddhist Meditation course been conducted there ‘VIPASANNA” where people stay long for two week, they won’t talk with the co-participant…. They don’t use mobile phone….similarly in this sabarimala practice... It is to experience the Aesthetic penance…. Here in Sabarimala, EXCLUSIVE Place for the Male Devotees to experience Eternal Celibacy…. The practice of  Mandala Virdam has numerous benefits, if you get to know from the ardent devotees…. The period of aesthetic penance, make a person realize his mistake… increase his love towards his family…. Of course the belief system, make one succeed in his endeavor…. Clarification: 41-48 days Mandal viratham carried in his home not in an EXCLUSIVE environment.... why the final point where he is to report been restricted for entry of women... If your are advised to practice MOUNAM (Remind Silent and listen to inner voice) then i should facilitate you with a calm environment... By nature, By Biology... The system has been designed such a way... to make men have rigorous practice/training to experience celibacy.... One more Clarification: some neglected the mandal viratham... they are not going to benefited out of this.... someone with out practicing Mandal viratham, enters the temple... how the deity in the temple accept it... u have not prepared for the exam, u paid ur exam fee... Hall tickets will be issued... but not the GRADING or PASS MARK. So such violation accepted by LORD AYYAPPA... Again Rationalist should think on this twice... Deity is a Statue, it cannot speak... the purpose of mythological stories and god factors are to instill self regulation, self discipline.... 

7.      If this belief system is broken…. It will become yet another temple in India… Need for the practice of Aesthetic living/ kind of Celibacy/ Mandala Virtham… the unique practice would bid adieu… Number of male devotee would reduce drastically… This was an opinion I heard from few regular visitors… Let the man experience a world without woman… This was designed such a way…. All above religion is a matter of belief system… Court cannot intervene beyond certain limits unless it is arbitrary discrimination…. Society or Mankind needs such kind of belief system for support, to condition his/her mind or keep it in phase/synergy. Final question remains in mind, those attempts were made in the desire to meet god or to defy the religious custom or belief.

Updated (30/01/2019): After seeing wide protest on the both side. I am taking yet another analysis/view point on this matter. Society/Culture/Religion subject to change. The Society will reform itself to the changing needs/demands. It is to be noted that change will either be positive or negative. It cannot be said that society always progress towards good/ moral et al. It may also degrade itself other way. We have seen group of people forming Vanitha Madhil and Otherside Section of people protesting women entry into the temple over months & days. This should not be seen through the prism of Win/Loss. This kind of Ego-centric approach has unleashed HATE POLITICS. It is a great threat to DEMOCRACY. This type of CONFLICTS/ISSUES should be approached with INTEGRATION STRATEGY. This will help us get to the root of the problem, built new value in the society. It would prevent re-occurrence of the problem in near future. The Order given by the Supreme Court (Judiciary is the Last resort of any problem/issues). It should not be denigrated as it being the guardian of the constitution, It uphold the constitution (which "We people of India" gave to "our self" in essence: we our self should not violate those rules). People protesting against Entry should take a look, Whether the Penance/Celibacy/Mandala viratham practiced ardently? there has been humpty changes to make the practice more  adoptable/flexible. If such change were not included, people will hesitate to follow. Preserving the sanctity/holiness of any tradition/culture will deserve place only in the MUSEUM. Yes.. Society has undergone several changes, certain customs/practices became superstition not in there origin, but in there METHOD OF PRACTICE as a ceremony/formality. The Constitution/Law of the land need to be followed in the LETTER and SPIRIT i.e. leaving things just on paper will serve none. similarly religious practice/custom/belief should have utility, if it got defeated we should adopt to new method with the same spirit. People should evolve themselves towards SPIRITUALITY rather struggling with Multiple-Gods. In essence, the Society should transform from the state of IMMATURITY to MATURITY.

Small dedication for the following people….
1. Those people who consider Hinduism is one which being projected by Mr. H. Raja or RSS.
2. Those who brand others as pro-bjp, right-wing, kaavi or even fundamentalist if they stand with religious practice (even if it has a pinch of science/reason/non-arbitrariness)
3. Those struggle a lot to differentiate between Discrimination, Exclusivity, Facilitation.
4. Those tag themselves Rationalist and strive hard to find discrimination in dosai, idly, tea, coffee…
5. And those overly people,  half baked devotee, in overflow of bhakthi distort the purpose of certain practice. 

இட்லி, தோசை யில் சாதி இருக்குனு கேட்க பொருமை இருக்கவங்க…
Please…
இதுக்கு 20 நிமிடம் ஒதுக்க கேட்டுக்கொ ள்கிறேன்…
Must watch…. 

Extract from the Social Media Argument....

Link follows...

Thought to ponder....  "எதை தீட்டு என்கின்றனோ அதனுள்ள பத்து மாதம் இருந்தான்"....  Could it be a valid argument? What is Menstrual cycle?  Egg which formed in the biological process of female reproductive system has not fertilized...  Now it is being eliminated by the body as a waste....  You took a sweet, healthy food last night ...  Why u excrete it the next day?

Just to make people think...   

Even educated people...  Comes up with base less arguments....  If property right is rejected, if civil right is violated...  It Can be questioned... 

Religious believe r custom has minimum utility which has to be considered before abandoning ....  Islamic world followed polygamy….  Reasons might be low sex ratio, high fatality of men in wars/battles….. Now it is irrelevant….  Menstruation ….  Olden days They had less hygiene practice….  So women was given a break in daily chores….  I don’t even want to support it as a concern for women…. Now things had changed…. It is not fair to restrict them…. Still…. Good thoughts, Good Vibration, Peace of Mind.... etc.... which are the primary purpose of temple or any place of worship for that sense.... "விதைத்தவன் உறங்களாம் ஆனால் விதைகள் ஒரு போதும் உறங்குவதில்லை"  (Sabarimala issue raised by different section of people for some reason... though they try to withdraw from this case as a petitioner.... it continue.....) coming back to the point.... Psychological Biological Agony and behavior of women during menstruation need a mention…. If u say I don’t believe in vibrations…..  Power of thoughts….  while traveling…  sit next to driver seat….  If u sleep he will shout… vibration... Leave it here… just  Carryon… What women empowerment has bought in.... Am not against it... How psychological warfare unleashed....  Women against men or vice versa....  Across the globe... What it has bought...  Broken families....  Economic independence of the women aimed only at Increasing consumer market....  Bringing Women out of home... its not engender.... not for development..... Psychologically media, cinema, many books..... sowed the seed of fear.... made them feel guilty... made them feel unsecured.... wait don't jump in to any conclusion.... Harassment, Domestic Violence...list extends.... How many of the incident in your list are from first hand experience? (as a by-stander) ... we have developed the stigma through the media, cinema and social media..... we started looking it through that suspicion... what we ended up doing? "கூட்டை விட்டு வெளியே வந்தாய் கிளியே, சிறகடிக்கவா இல்லை சீட்டெடுக்கவா"   Everything for a reason...... Consumer Market.... 

Watch it.... 

Pure politics, most of recent judgement by higher court trigger hindu fringe elements (including the yesterday’s verdict on diwali celebration) …. RSS or BJP is not Representative of Hinduism….. They do politics on that basis…. They bank vote with that identity…. Their action /reaction would turn vote in favor of the other parties…..  that’s it the political manipulation way ahead of 2019 Elections…. 

Sabarimala issue mobilized its support stating menstruation acclaimed by hindu religion as dirty,  it degrade womenhood,  motherhood.… but many stories n believes revolve around the temple… other ayyappan temple permit women of all group….  Restriction in sabarimala is due to the aesthetic penance of lord ayyappan which people believe strongly (Nastika Bhramachariya)….. So Concept of Menstruation can be abandoned while arguing for Sabarimala issue....

To note, Sabarimala kind of issues brings vote bank in favour of other party against LDF.... Pinch of Politics...  Who benefits?  one party has potential of securing hardly 1/2 seats...  The other has a potential of 50%...  Either ruling LDF support d cause or kept themselves mere spectators...  They r to lose votes... Right-wing media project it as  law and order failure  and other end fringe groups site it as assault on religious sentiment…..  Either option u choose… it’s an hit on LDF govt…. . Kerala CM however Intelligently tried his best to convince he countrymen….linking the issue of religious beliefs with all those social maladies ridden off in the past…. Still it was fruitless….. V ppl been driven by baseless arguments....  Likes and shares without clarity....   

Basic question raises ….  

If u believe in the religion,  u will be eager to visit the temple (that means  u must believe in all mythological stories/belief about the temple/ayyappa) obviously it would prevent u from going there….  If u don’t believe all those stories n considered it to be cooked up….  Then what would be the intention of visiting the temple…..rather than hatching disharmony…..  Is it desire to reach god or to defy the law/custom…. 

About Periods (Menstrual Cycle)

https://youtu.be/E8b8rwBP59Q

some insight on the sabarimala issue….. 

https://youtu.be/xHo2d_b5pB4

Some more insights (political conspiracy) 

https://youtu.be/oV_2bIMcoMI

Religious view point 

https://youtu.be/gfA8zWyGd-4

Social perspective (about the conspiracy/twist to mobilize mass support)

https://youtu.be/W91BB0QtcnQ

Legal persepective (Must Watch Debate.... Insightful)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab2hHYB9crY&t=928s

Ps. What the Verdicts of Higher Judiciary in recent times intended to......

Which comes first chicken or egg…. 

Long back Taking Alcohol was wrong….  Society had a restriction on it….  Now it become social  drinking….  Does it made alcohol a holy drink….  Whether it’s negative impacts got ridden off….  Still it has the same implication on health…..  How the society accepted this social reform….  Thanks to Media, cinema, stalwart star celebrities…..  Something bad for health is bad forever ….  Society degraded itself to accept the intrusion of unethical,  immoral behavior…..  

Now it’s time for extra-marital, pre-marital, unnatural etc….. Soon society will accept it….  NSSO survey says now it is prevalent only among 1%..... Poor status…  lack of awareness among the people…..  Why people protest for social norms, why they struggle to preserve value system…..  You drive them for freedom for some XYZ, actually which they don’t expect….  U teach them,  for ur gain…  u want to make the world flat…. Market diversification rather product diversification, would cut cost ….  All for a reason…..  

https://youtu.be/7TzXESryPZ8