*Summarized Points *
Clarification for the Argument/Discussion (which has been provided at the end)
Clarification for the Argument/Discussion (which has been provided at the end)
- Mensturation is no way related to sabarimala issue…. It is twisted argument… Why I presented this point here… It is for a reason… Generally people abstain from visiting temple on periods because Olden days there was no proper sanitary napkins, Hygiene practices. It doesn’t happen on its own… this was dictated by the society (later codified as RELIGION). They claim it a ‘Theetu’ and ‘Negative Energy’ because it’s a failed attempt of fertilization. Note: Regarding Sabarimala Argument, we can just abandon this… it would be hurdle here… Sabarimala issue is about different belief.
- Indra,Varuna.. so and so god or mythological stories were made to make people follow certain things/practice habits…. If my grandma, gives me food saying “Anjukannan will come” It is a lie… It is a myth…. No Anjukannan exist in the real world…. Should I stop having food… Her intention was to make me eat, as a toddler i don’t take food on my own. Similarly, the society deviced certain mechanism for this purpose. During Menstruation, it is more involuntary bleeding than any other excretion from body. Imagine if the bleeding spill everywhere, even people faint of seeing blood… Involuntary bleeding make her less confident… Many explanations interpretations, lots and lot there over internet like smell of blood make people vulnerable to wild animal attack….. etc… MYTHOLOGICAL stories has no scientific basis but the intentions has Scientific reasons.
- Then about
Psychological Behaviour of women during menstruation… same type of argument
which comes first… Egg or Chicken? I don’t live in the olden days, I am
talking about the present day women…. Am
talking about those playing dominant role in the institution, those with
economic independence, who have crossed certain social barriers…. Those with
strong conviction… They show abnormal Behaviour…. Pre & Post Menstrual
Syndrome… This is part and parcel of the biological or natural process which creates
a physical pain… They show anger for simple reason which in normal times they
handle with charm… Actually I should not reveal these personal stuff for the
sake of Argument… I have experienced it with many… (Normally girls won’t reveal
outside when they are in period…)
- Women
empowerment – am not talking against it. Across the global it has been
encouraged by many, not for the real purpose. Media, Cinema, TV serials sow the
seed of fear, insecurity, etc with the Women community… Drive them for Economic
Independence… Want them to revolt against men…. Ultimately the economic independence
achieved increase in consumption… Very few shattered the social hurdles to fly
high…. I attempted to give an alternative perspective. Because people often
driven blindly, in the name of “something” and pushed into some other garbage…
Time being this topic can be skipped…. I will present my view point in some
other write-up….
- Argument of “Even
a diety would loss virginity” started by non-believers…. Of course it need to
be addressed…. This is a wrongful, twisted argument to emotionally provoke
people. No religious text or dictum or Priest said Ayyappa would loss virginity
if any girl in his vicinity. If the Rationalist argue this, don’t they know it
is a statue. Point is about belief system. One took vow of eternal celibacy (Ayyappa
diety – Nastika Bhramacharya) and lakhs of people with strong aesthetic
practice of celibacy of 48 days (Mandala Viratham) This would have created a
vibration in the temple premises that is believed to be powerful against women.
This is a religious belief. It is the beliefs which make the people to
experience celibacy at least 48 days a year. It would reduce consumption of
alcohol, cigarettes, condom sales, non-vegetarian foods and other non-essential
luxuries at least for the period of 50 – 60 days…. Of course Economic loss for
the system.
- Social Reforms
and Women Entry, are two different context… The difference of Discrimination
and Exclusion is missing in your 3rd point. Pinaraya attempted the
same way, confusing people between the two different arguments/ issues. All
Ayyappa temple permit women except sabarimala (seems 3 more popular Ayyappa temple
in kerala… I know only Ayyappa temple one in Anna Nagar Tower Park). This is
about EXCLUSION… Area Exclusive for Men or Exclusive for Women. For better
illustration, there is a place in Chennai Thirunir Malai….. A Buddhist Meditation
course been conducted there ‘VIPASANNA” where people stay long for two week,
they won’t talk with the co-participant…. They don’t use mobile phone….similarly in this sabarimala practice... It is
to experience the Aesthetic penance…. Here in Sabarimala, EXCLUSIVE Place for
the Male Devotees to experience Eternal Celibacy…. The practice of Mandala Virdam has numerous benefits, if you
get to know from the ardent devotees…. The period of aesthetic penance, make a
person realize his mistake… increase his love towards his family…. Of course
the belief system, make one succeed in his endeavor…. Clarification:
7.
If this belief
system is broken…. It will become yet another temple in India… Need for the
practice of Aesthetic living/ kind of Celibacy/ Mandala Virtham… the unique
practice would bid adieu… Number of male devotee would reduce drastically… This
was an opinion I heard from few regular visitors… Let the man experience a
world without woman… This was designed such a way…. All above religion is a
matter of belief system… Court cannot intervene beyond certain limits unless it
is arbitrary discrimination…. Society or Mankind needs such kind of belief
system for support, to condition his/her mind or keep it in phase/synergy. Final
question remains in mind, those attempts were made in the desire to meet god or
to defy the religious custom or belief.
Updated (30/01/2019): After seeing wide protest on the both side. I am taking yet another analysis/view point on this matter. Society/Culture/Religion subject to change. The Society will reform itself to the changing needs/demands. It is to be noted that change will either be positive or negative. It cannot be said that society always progress towards good/ moral et al. It may also degrade itself other way. We have seen group of people forming Vanitha Madhil and Otherside Section of people protesting women entry into the temple over months & days. This should not be seen through the prism of Win/Loss. This kind of Ego-centric approach has unleashed HATE POLITICS. It is a great threat to DEMOCRACY. This type of CONFLICTS/ISSUES should be approached with INTEGRATION STRATEGY. This will help us get to the root of the problem, built new value in the society. It would prevent re-occurrence of the problem in near future. The Order given by the Supreme Court (Judiciary is the Last resort of any problem/issues). It should not be denigrated as it being the guardian of the constitution, It uphold the constitution (which "We people of India" gave to "our self" in essence: we our self should not violate those rules). People protesting against Entry should take a look, Whether the Penance/Celibacy/Mandala viratham practiced ardently? there has been humpty changes to make the practice more adoptable/flexible. If such change were not included, people will hesitate to follow. Preserving the sanctity/holiness of any tradition/culture will deserve place only in the MUSEUM. Yes.. Society has undergone several changes, certain customs/practices became superstition not in there origin, but in there METHOD OF PRACTICE as a ceremony/formality. The Constitution/Law of the land need to be followed in the LETTER and SPIRIT i.e. leaving things just on paper will serve none. similarly religious practice/custom/belief should have utility, if it got defeated we should adopt to new method with the same spirit. People should evolve themselves towards SPIRITUALITY rather struggling with Multiple-Gods. In essence, the Society should transform from the state of IMMATURITY to MATURITY.
Updated (30/01/2019): After seeing wide protest on the both side. I am taking yet another analysis/view point on this matter. Society/Culture/Religion subject to change. The Society will reform itself to the changing needs/demands. It is to be noted that change will either be positive or negative. It cannot be said that society always progress towards good/ moral et al. It may also degrade itself other way. We have seen group of people forming Vanitha Madhil and Otherside Section of people protesting women entry into the temple over months & days. This should not be seen through the prism of Win/Loss. This kind of Ego-centric approach has unleashed HATE POLITICS. It is a great threat to DEMOCRACY. This type of CONFLICTS/ISSUES should be approached with INTEGRATION STRATEGY. This will help us get to the root of the problem, built new value in the society. It would prevent re-occurrence of the problem in near future. The Order given by the Supreme Court (Judiciary is the Last resort of any problem/issues). It should not be denigrated as it being the guardian of the constitution, It uphold the constitution (which "We people of India" gave to "our self" in essence: we our self should not violate those rules). People protesting against Entry should take a look, Whether the Penance/Celibacy/Mandala viratham practiced ardently? there has been humpty changes to make the practice more adoptable/flexible. If such change were not included, people will hesitate to follow. Preserving the sanctity/holiness of any tradition/culture will deserve place only in the MUSEUM. Yes.. Society has undergone several changes, certain customs/practices became superstition not in there origin, but in there METHOD OF PRACTICE as a ceremony/formality. The Constitution/Law of the land need to be followed in the LETTER and SPIRIT i.e. leaving things just on paper will serve none. similarly religious practice/custom/belief should have utility, if it got defeated we should adopt to new method with the same spirit. People should evolve themselves towards SPIRITUALITY rather struggling with Multiple-Gods. In essence, the Society should transform from the state of IMMATURITY to MATURITY.
Small dedication for the following people….
1. Those people who consider Hinduism is one which being projected by Mr. H. Raja or RSS.
2. Those who brand others as pro-bjp, right-wing, kaavi or even fundamentalist if they stand with religious practice (even if it has a pinch of science/reason/non-
3. Those struggle a lot to differentiate between Discrimination, Exclusivity, Facilitation.
4. Those tag themselves Rationalist and strive hard to find discrimination in dosai, idly, tea, coffee…
5. And those overly people, half baked devotee, in overflow of bhakthi distort the purpose of certain practice.
இட்லி, தோசை யில் சாதி இருக்குனு கேட்க பொருமை இருக்கவங்க…
Please…
இதுக்கு 20 நிமிடம் ஒதுக்க கேட்டுக்கொ ள்கிறேன்…
Must watch….
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